ohio and indeed, it is a practice throughout america. >>. >> schieffer: when the judge says you're stopping more minorities-- that's basically what she's saying-- how do you say in response to that? >> well, we went to the rand corporation in 2006 and we asked this question. how do you determine whether or not there's racial profiling going on? they said that the appropriate formula to use, if you will, is a description of victims of violent crime of the perpetrators of violent crime. and i can assure you our stops certainly comport with that. it's almost ironic here that the new york city police department is the most diverse police department in the united states but probably in the country. we have police officers born in 88 countries. our police officer rank is majority minority. and the last police academy class had graduates born in 50 or more countries. so we are as i say very much diverse and we look like the city that we police. now, the losers of this, if this case is allowed to stand, are people who live in minority communities. 97% of the shooting victims in new york city last y